TheoryCrafter on Card creation challenge
2 weeks ago
Railway Inspector
Creature- Advisor
Common
Flash
When ~ enters, choose one:
-Tap target vehicle. Then put a stun counter on it.
-Remove a stun counter from target vehicle. Then Untap it.
1/1
Choose One:
-Make another Thomas the Tank Engine character into a Magic card.
-To close this out, Create an MDFC called A Very Useful Engine//A Very Silly engine.
-Sant- on Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker loses abilities …
2 weeks ago
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Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker is in the battlefield and a 1/1 creature dies during the Combat Phase on my turn, both creatures are controlled by the same opponent.
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In my Post-Combat Main Phase I cast Reprobation on Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker, it loses all abilities.
Would the 1/1 creature still return to the battlefield at the end of the turn?
philias on Card creation challenge
2 weeks ago
IDK if you were referring to the Thomas challenge, or the shuffle challenge, so I'm doing both
The Lost Tank Engine
Legendary Artifact Creature: Steam Engine
Flash
When ~ becomes blocked, exile it and shuffle all creatures into their owners library
5/5
Make another Thomas the Tank Engine character into a Magic card!
philias on Card creation challenge
2 weeks ago
Toby, the Wise
Legendary Artifact: Vehicle Steam-Engine
Crew 2
Whenever ~ blocks, other blocking creatures you control get +0/+1 until end of turn
Whenever ~ attacks, scry 1
1/2
My favorite train is actually Percy, but I don't think that Toby gets enough attention. A train that does get enough attention however...
Diesel 10, the Horrible Brute
Legendary Artifact: Vehicle Diesel-Engine
First-Strike, Afflict 4, Crew 4
Whenever ~ attacks or becomes blocked, you lose 1 life
~ has +X/+0, where X is the amount of life you lost this turn
~ can be your commander
0/5
Make another Thomas the Train character into a magic card.
sergiodelrio on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
^ That is my favourite answer, I'll take it as the official ruling on this matter :D
TypicalTimmy on Card creation challenge
2 weeks ago
Reality Storm
Instant
Shuffle target nonland permanent into its owners library. They then reveal a number of cards from the top of their library equal to the number of cards shuffled into it this way, and may play one without paying its mana cost.
Overload
Repeat
ImNotTylerAllen on Iron Man, Nightmares of New …
2 weeks ago
WarknightSoul I appreciate the call out dude, I would have walked in with a big smile on my face and just been cold dead W R O N G. lol
Rhadamanthus on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
In a tournament setting, this is a weird enough situation where a Judge's ruling will depend a lot on exactly how much they know about the detailed shortcut rules, how they interpret those rules, and how well each player makes the case for their point of view. Since I'm not that Judge answering that real-life call, I don't know what to say there. In a non-tournament setting where the players can't come to an agreement on how to take shortcuts and what rules apply, the game just breaks down and the win/lose/draw results depend on how each player tells the story to their friends later.
Apokalypsi on Appropriation Crusades
2 weeks ago
You're right in that trample is hard to come by in Esper, but you can go with First/Double Strike, which is bountiful in white. There's also Herald of Hoofbeats for evasion.
Pfeifer on Reveka, Wizard Savant
2 weeks ago
Thanks Xtough! Great advice with Mind Over Matter too. That bad boy is on the wishlist now:) And the ugliness of the deck is what makes it beautiful, haha.
DankedOutEwok on Aragorn, and his furry friends
2 weeks ago
Seems interesting, but needs more lands as it currently stands
Xtough on Reveka, Wizard Savant
2 weeks ago
Great ugly ping deck - I am happy to see the commander as a threat from the past! Maybe add Mind Over Matter as wincon: with Curiosity it is twice as many damage as your deck size left...
TheoryCrafter on Card creation challenge
2 weeks ago
Sir Topham Hatt
Legendary Creature- Human
Rare
Vehicle spells you control have haste.
Vehicles you control require 1 power less to crew(Vehicles with a crew of 0 or less still require a creature to tap)
1/1
Choose One:
-Repeat
-Create a card that can shuffle all creatures on the battlefield into their libraries. It must be an Instant or have Flash.
SufferFromEDHD on Your Sass Is Grass! (Sasaya …
2 weeks ago
Just spitballing some ideas. I am a big fan of seeing jank shine to its full potential and this deck looks solid.
Epidilius on Bunch of legendary Creatures
2 weeks ago
imo the Assassin would be more flavourful if it read:
"Contract Signed - Whenever a legendary creature or planeswalker enters, create a 1/1 black assassin creature token.
Contract Complete - Whenever a legendary creature or planeswalker dies, create a treasure token."
A little more complex, but you get the tools you need to destroy the threat when the threat enters.
king-saproling on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
Sure but since any shortcut system they use is acceptable, Obeka's opponents do not need to agree to the fragmented loop shortcut system and are not forced by the rules to end their turn during any particular iteration of Obeka's ability resolving. Thus if the Obeka controller continues to take actions that execute the loop, the only formal rules that could apply would be tournament guidelines regarding slow play.
moo1234 on Card creation challenge
2 weeks ago
This challenge was done a few challenges ago. Twice, but we'll go again
Spike, Rules Manipulator
Legendary planeswalker - Spike
Companion - This deck is toxic (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for any time you could cast a sorcery, if your deck meets the deckbuilding requirements)
+1: create a green artifact token called birthing pod with ": Sacrifice a creature: Search your library for a creature card with mana value equal to 1 plus the sacrificed creature's mana value, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle. Activate only as a sorcery"
0: The next time a judge makes a decision, you may overrule that decision
-7: you get an emblem with "as long as you control 1 or more creatures you can't lose the game. This emblem overrules any effect including timing out or a judge ruling"
6
Next challenge reimagine a thomas the tank engine character as an mtg card. But give it an MTG vibe
Hordebane on Literally just a list of …
2 weeks ago
capwner, definitely agree I need some more protection in the deck. Luckily with 39 unblockable creatures in the list, I've got a bit of wiggle room to eat a board wipe or two (hopefully). But Heroic Intervention is an easy add for sure.
Reliquary Tower is also a pretty easy add, not sure why I didn't think to put it in before.
Toski was on my radar, but I decided to stick firm to the restriction of ALL creatures in the deck being unblockable. (The Indomitable is already pushing the boundaries there as a vehicle lol).
I think I might consider subbing out a couple of cards to get some counterspells or other protection in there as well. Some boots might be nice for some reusable spot removal protection.
Rhadamanthus on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
Yes, they're "largely" informal because they don't need to be formal 100% of the time to cover the run-of-the-mill situations players will go through during a game. However, for more complicated situations the CR also provides a formalized framework in 729.2 to help sort out technical rules issues. This is a technical rules discussion, so we need the help.
Sections 729.1, 729.2, 729.3 etc. aren't in opposition to each other and they don't do anything to cancel each other out. They're all needed to fill out the complete picture of how the rules work.
king-saproling on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
But Rhadamanthus, the shortcut rules are informal:
729.1a The rules for taking shortcuts are largely informal. As long as each player in the game understands the intent of each other player, any shortcut system they use is acceptable.
The procedure you laid out does not need to be accepted or followed.
sergiodelrio on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
Ok, I concede my argument at this point, although an official text on how MAY abilities work would really convince me that I am wrong here and has not been provided yet.
Rhadamanthus on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
The idea that "may" abilities can be ignored is mostly something for tournament play. It's an official judging policy that simplifies how problems are resolved. If a player doesn't take an optional action and the game continues on then it's just assumed the player chose not to do it, rather than having to stop and treat the miss as some kind of Game Rule Violation or Game Play Error.
I agree it's not exactly clear whether 729.3 regarding fragmented loops is strictly applicable here but you don't really need it. By my interpretation, everything important is laid out in 729.2 regarding the formal procedure for taking a shortcut. The reason I didn't quote it above was because it's a lot of text and my post was already long, but here it is for reference:
729.2. Taking a shortcut follows the following procedure.
729.2a At any point in the game, the player with priority may suggest a shortcut by describing a sequence of game choices, for all players, that may be legally taken based on the current game state and the predictable results of the sequence of choices. This sequence may be a non-repetitive series of choices, a loop that repeats a specified number of times, multiple loops, or nested loops, and may even cross multiple turns. It can’t include conditional actions, where the outcome of a game event determines the next action a player takes. The ending point of this sequence must be a place where a player has priority, though it need not be the player proposing the shortcut.
Example: A player controls a creature enchanted by Presence of Gond, which grants the creature the ability “{T}: Create a 1/1 green Elf Warrior creature token,” and another player controls Intruder Alarm, which reads, in part, “Whenever a creature enters, untap all creatures.” When the player has priority, they may suggest “I’ll create a million tokens,” indicating the sequence of activating the creature’s ability, all players passing priority, letting the creature’s ability resolve and create a token (which causes Intruder Alarm’s ability to trigger), Intruder Alarm’s controller putting that triggered ability on the stack, all players passing priority, Intruder Alarm’s triggered ability resolving, all players passing priority until the player proposing the shortcut has priority, and repeating that sequence 999,999 more times, ending just after the last token-creating ability resolves.
729.2b Each other player, in turn order starting after the player who suggested the shortcut, may either accept the proposed sequence, or shorten it by naming a place where they will make a game choice that’s different than what’s been proposed. (The player doesn’t need to specify at this time what the new choice will be.) This place becomes the new ending point of the proposed sequence.
Example: The active player draws a card during her draw step, then says, “Go.” The nonactive player is holding Into the Fray (an instant that says “Target creature attacks this turn if able”) and says, “I’d like to cast a spell during your beginning of combat step.” The current proposed shortcut is that all players pass priority at all opportunities during the turn until the nonactive player has priority during the beginning of combat step.
729.2c Once the last player has either accepted or shortened the shortcut proposal, the shortcut is taken. The game advances to the last proposed ending point, with all game choices contained in the shortcut proposal having been taken. If the shortcut was shortened from the original proposal, the player who now has priority must make a different game choice than what was originally proposed for that player.
Mohamedpe on Orzhov Tokens
2 weeks ago
Taida, thanks for the tips, I'm going to test some of these cards you mentioned!
Rhadamanthus on How does tax collector interact …
2 weeks ago
Another detail to give context: A card's "mana cost" is specifically the symbols printed in the upper right corner of the standard Magic card frame. If an effect lets you cast a spell without paying its mana cost or lets you pay an alternative cost in place of the mana cost, that's the only part of the cost that gets replaced. Any other applicable cost increases/reductions will still be considered to calculate the total cost you have to pay.
plakjekaas on Warped Devotion + Parallax Nexus
2 weeks ago
No, it won't. Warped Devotion mentions a permanent, and in Magic an object is only a permanent if it's on the battlefield. It would have to mention "permanent cards" if it would include Parallax Nexus in the options.
So only Cyclonic Rift- or Unsummon-like effects will cause a player to discard.
chaosshadow589 on The Warrior’s Blade- Najeela CEDH
2 weeks ago
I have found most cantrips like gitaxian probe don't really get me any further ahead of hoping that I can identify an opponent's counterspell. In 5 color with access to every single card in the game the card quality has to be absolutely near perfect to justify the slot. For that reason I need spells that get me more cards than trading 1 for 1 and /or push my game plan along. Thanks for checking out the deck!
sergiodelrio on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
Ok, one last thing and sorry for triple posting:
How many times do new players forget to fetch a land when something like Path to Exile hits their creature?
No one gets to pressure them to make a choice. They simply ignored it/forgot about it and the game is 100% cool with that - no amount of judge calls will revert the game state once you "forgot".
Imho, this is a good example of how the spirit of the game wants to handle MAY abilities. You can literally do nothing / ignore it completely / forget about it and the game moves on without a problem.
sergiodelrio on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
EDIT: All I found was a discussion from 2007 (sigh) where poeple, including a lvl 3 judge talk about may abilities. They conclude that "May abilities do not happen if you do not declare them"
Sadly, this is the best I got
EchoSpice on Group hug but snake, so …
2 weeks ago
capwner Mana Echoes is a great suggestion!! Definitely will be adding that, as for decking myself i havent had any problems so far, but Endurance seems like a safe bet! And yeah ive definitely thought about Purphoros, God of the Forge as well, but i think my pod might kill me IRL if he hits the board XD Thanks for the comment! :D
sergiodelrio on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
capwner Arguably, it doesn't, as it is a MAY ability.
I understand where you're coming from. We would need definitive rules to understand how exactly the game handles "MAY" abilities.
Arguably, and this is how I interpret it, a may ability can entirely be ignored by the player(s) it is affecting. There is no choice against it. This is how it is different from a "CHOOSE" ability.
If Obeka's ability was somehow worded "TAP: target player who's turn it is chooses one " 1) end the turn 2) don't end the turn" I'd say this works and you're right.
My interpretation allows MAY abilities to be ignored entirely as they are an implicit choice, not an explicit choice. If MAY abilities worked the way you and others suggest, then, in a multiplayer game, every player would be taking action and be involved in every step of the game, thus, also the loop we're talking about, since they have to "let this resolve without me taking action and pass priority". But this is all the AP does in the event they choose to not act on the MAY ability.
Unfortunately, MAY abilities are not covered explicitly in the CR or at least not in a way that would resolve our question.
I really think we should get definitive supreme court ruling from the rules manager on this one tbh.
The real question remains imho, does "resolves, pass priority" count as taking active action the way required by the rules for this to "work" in a way intended by OP.
Also, imho, in the whole loop process, when the Obeka player demonstrates it, they are the only ones who don't pass priority on an empty stack, thus preventing the game from moving forward... it's not like stuff is triggering automatically... they are activating it over and over.
Obeka: "Do the loop 1000 times"
AP: "resolves, pass priority 1000 times"
Obeka: "One more time"
I understand what ya'll mean but 1) I'm not convinced and 2) this interpretation seems like it is not in the spirit of the game, which certainly does not mean I'm right and you're wrong.
capwner on Group hug but snake, so …
2 weeks ago
Mana Echoes can make a ton of mana and deck everyone if you chain Prosperity effects. And maybe consider Elfhame Sanctuary or a Words card like Words of Wind to protect yourself from decking. Endurance also works here to a lesser extent
capwner on Group hug but snake, so …
2 weeks ago
Looks like a sweet list, right mix of power and fun. Xyris is super strong. I feel like Battle Hymn is underplayed and goes crazy in here. Artifact Mutation is a personal fav of mine as well, good picks. I like the omission of Narset, seems like a conscious choice to keep the deck fair and fun. I don't have too many recs, stuff that comes to mind would be Earthcraft but it's pretty expensive. And Purph but I'm sure you've thought about him. +1
capwner on Your Sass Is Grass! (Sasaya …
2 weeks ago
Thanks for all the suggestions. I think Verdant is too expensive for a setup card, Hart works because you can play it on turn 3 crack on 4. Journey of Discovery is very playable and used to be in the deck. I think You Happen on a Glade is better though, so that took its spot. Flare is a decent card but it is essentially another Cultivate. You can see I really prioritize cards that get me more than 1 land to hand and particularly at instant speed, for reasons I discuss in the primer, that's really what the deck needs to do its thing.
capwner on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
sergiodelrio The ability instructs the active player to make a choice which impacts the game state. If you want to prove your stance, you need to back up the claim that this choice doesn't constitute an action. Can you do that?
SufferFromEDHD on Your Sass Is Grass! (Sasaya …
2 weeks ago
Yavimaya Elder is OG. Part of the reason I even mentioned Pattern of Rebirth.
Verdant Confluence same cost as Burnished Hart but more value. You run 3 creatures that benefit from counters.
Journey of Discovery same cost and slightly better value than Burnished Heart.
Flare of Cultivation seems good.
sergiodelrio on The Rules Say It Works
2 weeks ago
Obeka player: 'put my may ability on the stack'
AP: 'resolves'
Please explain how the AP is taking action, if it's put this way.
capwner on Literally just a list of …
2 weeks ago
Love the concept and simplicity of the deck, I always like when a deckbuilding choice gets you to run a whole ton of old jank niche cards! The first thing I thought of is maybe add Toski, Bearer of Secrets as an honorary unblockable (total jank card right?). And maybe a bit of protection like March of Swirling Mist or Heroic Intervention, protection never goes amiss in creature decks. Reliquary Tower is probably a good add as well if you are stacking multiples of these draw on damage effects.
K4nkato on Tinkerbell says “No”
2 weeks ago
Weekly Results:
Affinity: ✅✅
Gruul Tremors: ✅✅
Mono Black Rat Sack: ❌❌
I lost to Pauperganda in the finals lol
capwner on Your Sass Is Grass! (Sasaya …
2 weeks ago
SufferFromEDHD Hmmm, how do I defend my Burnished Hart... I guess Skyshroud Claim is the closest competitor and that card is quite good because it acts like a ritual after flipping Sasaya. I think my reasoning with Burnished was that it feeds clamp and enables Survival of the Fittest. You make a good point though, the card has downsides and may be worth reconsideration. Masticore is a nice rec but I think not as efficient as O-stone for removal or Squall Line for burn. I think the other cards don't really fit the deck's gameplan quite as well as the creature tutors and tech land I have included. Though I do love Dust Bowl. Can't run em all!
I think Natural Order is more suited to a creature/stompy build, the only time I want to get my bombs out is when I'm already going off, and at that point the mana discount (primary advantage of NO) doesn't matter to me because I am already making gobs of mana. Before then I'm most likely to want to tutor for Yavimaya Elder, in which case NO is overcosted.
Polaris on How does Ixidron and Detention …
2 weeks ago
That's correct. No name is not a blank name, it is no name. Objects that have no name can't "have the same name" as anything.
Polaris on Sixth Doctor + Sakashima the …
2 weeks ago
It will be legendary.
With the original wording of Sakashima the Impostor, there would be a decent argument that it's nonlegendary, as the 'still' in the text would mean the copy effect isn't changing its legendary status.
Unfortunately for you but fortunately for everyone's sanity, the card has gotten an Oracle text revision: You may have Sakashima the Impostor enter as a copy of any creature on the battlefield, except its name is Sakashima the Impostor, it’s legendary in addition to its other types, and it has “: Return this creature to its owner’s hand at the beginning of the next end step.”
When you cast Sakashima, The Sixth Doctor will trigger and copy it. The copy of the spell will be nonlegendary, but when Sakashima the copy enters the battlefield, its copy ability will make it legendary again.
You can get around this to a degree, however, because like most clones, Sakashima's ability is a may. You may choose not to have the copy enter as a copy of anything, in which case it will be a 3/1 Creature - Human Rogue named Sakashima the Impostor. It won't have any abilities, but it also won't be legendary, so it's better than nothing.
builderboy7 on How does Ixidron and Detention …
2 weeks ago
I ask the question what happens when I cast an Ixidron and follow it up by casting a Detention Sphere on a face-down creature? From what I understand, they don't have names so Detention Sphere wouldn't exile each player's board excluding the Ixidron. Is my assumption correct?